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The Christmas Cat   in reply to shellywinkle
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I just read your post...scanned briefly through the replys. We were given custody of our beautiful niece when she had just turned 3, She is now turning 5. Her mom is a serious addict along with a mental mess, the father is out of the picture. We are not in the loop on the mothers mental status because she is in and out of the mental hospital when the can capture her and no one will give us any information. The State said the baby was HARD to handle! Numerous times I have called the State and said she is gonna hurt herself and their reply was, yes we are aware of how she is. My loving, hugging 11 yr old had been bitten, beaten and everything else you can imagine. She thinks my 13 yr old who doesn't want to deal with her walks on water. I have tried everything I know to show her love, yet she hates me, beats me in the head, bites me, screams at me that I am mean! She has beat me up numerous times with hundred's of witnesses. She has beat up 2 teachers at her school and several children. She has just started seeing her mother 1 time a month and it has gotten worse. I don't want to give up on this child but I am on the verge of a STROKE! Don't get me wrong, she is punished for her behavior.........Timeouts...they don't work! Taking toys away....don't work. Spanking.........don't work! No TV.........don't work. I am exhausted and don't know what to do. We started her on some medication...........NOTHING WORKS....Meds work great for a week or two then it gets worse! When is enough enough? As she beat me to a pulp this evening with my two older girls crying and screaming and trying to stop her, When should I SAY MY FAMILY COMES FIRST! She is about to pull my family apart! However, she can't help it but I can't afford to help her any more! We get no support from the mom or the father. NOT A DIME, NOTHING! Nothing from the State either! However when she wakes in the morning she is going to be full of hugs and kisses and lots of I love you, till she does not get her way. I am afraid I will regret it either way I go! Forgot to mention we were the only family members who were willing to take her because NO ONE wanted to deal with the mom......Not even MOM'S parents! But now that we have her, all they do is hound us and blame the dad...UGGH!!! We had put that side of the family (dad/inlaws/parents/everyone) out of our lives because it was not worth the stress. It had been 5 years since we even spoke with that side of the family. However, we as a family decided to take this baby in because she can't help who her parents are. We are a Christian family and we are all struggling with what to do next! Going to bed black and blue tonight. Praying that I wake in the morning! Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated!!!!
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The Christmas Cat   in reply to hmanders
It may be that
Also It's a possibility he is just bored at home or school or be claustrophobic and anxious in crowded rooms or areas he cannot escape.Also sleep talking known as somniloquy as far as the cursing then quickly falling back to sleep my daughter has a friend that shouts and says scary things in her sleep eyes open that make no sense or are threatening. It can be caused by medication fear anxiety diet ect.
The fact that links me to this is he behaves outside of closed areas such as school or home. I think his problems could be emotional fear of something needing counseling or psychiatric help for it to relieve him of his fears
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SisterServant   in reply to hmanders

You may have considered this before or you may not feel up to it, etc.but have you asked your son's doctor for a referral to a counselor? You and your son might benefit from talking to some one together (if it is the right person.) In addition to his medical issues, he sounds angry (probably with you for reasons that you have no control over.) He does apologize to you and that is a good sign. With his approaching adolescence, it would be good to see if he can talk some of this out with a sensitive, caring counselor who can also help your son understand that you are a real person with feelings, etc. and not just "mom." Moms get taken for granted as I am sure you know.

A group home will probably not help that much because he may be placed with other children who have worse problems and also on some level he will feel abandoned because he is "bad."

It would be much better if you and he could enjoy some time together before he becomes a man and too many more hormones kick in...

If you have tried counseling before and it did not work, it was probably because the counselor was not the right "fit."

It sounds as though you are trying very hard. You must also get rid of your feelings that you are a failure. It sounds as though you are doing the best that you know how to do. And that is what God requires of us. Also, I don't know if you are religious or not, but it will probably help if talk to God about this also. He can guide you in the right direction, help you find the right counselor, etc.
I hope these suggestions help.

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hmanders   in reply to Berthealy2006
no law, yet I get threatened if my 10 year old is not on his meds. I tried weaning him off.... school suspended him for 15 days and said he couldn't come back until he was put back on meds
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hmanders   in reply to The Christmas Cat
I have thyroid issues. Maybe it's effecting my son
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It sucks to go through. I, myself have a kid who is "ADHD, ODD" and etc.. He is 10 years old and has always been hyper. Seems like since we moved 4 years ago he has gotten worse. Big change is always hard on kids, but even harder for kids with behavior issues. Most times I feel like the worst mother on the planet (I know I'm not). I blame myself for the way he is. I feel like a failure. I have another son who is 5 and he is complete opposite. I don't understand it and I feel I have tried pretty much everything at home. At least he behaves really well when we are out in public. That shows me he CAN behave, but chooses not to at home or school.
He is on adderol, tenex, and abilify (spellings?). Of course meds seems to work well at first, but then he obviously gets use to it and they don't work anymore. Doctors want to keep raising or changing and I am sick of it. He throws fits at school and curses out teachers (I've never heard him curse) then he falls asleep in class and wakes up like nothing happened. I am trying to look into certain diets. I'm also trying to be more structured, as in doing the same thing every single day. That is difficult seeing how I work, there are doctor appointments, etc.. things happen. I am seriously considering a group home because he is just getting worse- rages like no other and tells me he hates me and hopes I die. After he calms down he then apologizes. My patience is wearing thin.
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woman in a shoe   in reply to Worriedmom41508
I hope they can fine out what is wrong let me know how he coming along I hope u the best
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Worriedmom41508   in reply to woman in a shoe
Thank you for all your help! I just got him an appt at a local behavorial hospital with a social worker and psyciatrist.
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woman in a shoe   in reply to Worriedmom41508
OK clonidine is generic for catapress. It is use for high blood pressure.anxiety/ panic disorder ADHD and certain pain conditions. By me knowing this I would ask the Dr if there anything else they can give him. One other thing the dosage mite be to high for him I hope this help u good luck
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woman in a shoe   in reply to Worriedmom41508
I just look on line at the adha and autism these two don't say anything about what your son is doing. I don't know about colonidine. But I will check it out but sends he sleeping at school on it maybe try just given him half of it. I will be back at me check the med he on
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Worriedmom41508   in reply to woman in a shoe
Thank you so very much. The psyciatrist percribed Colonidine but then the school calls me bcz he is sleeping in class and out of it...I really dont think they know what is going on either. It is so exahusting and worrying...
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woman in a shoe   in reply to Worriedmom41508
Hi I know a lot of kids with ADHD and none of them do what u saying your son is doing. Have u look up ADHD. I would take him to a psychiatrist and tell them what he is doing I have not seen a child that is doing what yours is doing. But the person u post to not been on sent 2010. I will try and see what I can fine on the computer for u. I will be back in a little bit
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Hi I was reading your post and my 6yr old son was diagnosed with ADHD, he seems to have it from his father. Yes recently in the last month he has been having "eposides" where he spits, kicks, undresses to be naked, curses and says things like his heart is black and he is evil, hurts the family cat too. That doesnt sound like ADHD to the time we get him into the hospital he is like a different kid like a switch he is playing, laughing. I dont know what is wrong with him.
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Get you child tested for MTHFR, it is a simple blood test.
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The Christmas Cat
I also forgot to mention the thyroid effects moods and can make you angry , shaky or paranoid and have weird or even strange dreams or emotions and angry enough to hurt people or animals get the thyroid checked
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The Christmas Cat
My family member had schizophrenia and paranoia.So was given risperdal but there are side affects like shaking like parkinson symptoms and don't know if its for children all these drugs like paxel ect.have side affects you have to weigh the good with the bad. Maybe a mood stimulant might help like a smell like lavender which is known to have calming affects with animals as well as people. There are some harmless herbs that have very calming effects look into some homeotherapy music, smells, colors , environment, low noise high noise, foods, allergies what triggers or don't her emotions.hullucinations, write it all down.
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woman in a shoe   in reply to Berthealy2006
Don't talk about bad driving thur I went to my sons house took 1 half hours to get there on most dayshalf hour than I stated back than I got scared I turn around and went back to get him to be with me still didn't make it home he made me get a room that how bad it was out there now I got to go through it again next week. For the schools to close here its got to be 10 ins or more
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Berthealy2006   in reply to woman in a shoe
Except for the bad driving conditions, I love the snow
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woman in a shoe   in reply to Berthealy2006
Well they just said on the new we get hit again with snow stared sst night all day sun saiding 6 or more againg said even mon some snow so we getting hit heard this year we didn't even have this much last year for the hold whenter and I post to start school next week
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